Welcome Guest. Register Now!  



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-07-2014, 02:45 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 4
Personal Tax Treatment of S-Corp Income

Been pulling my hair out so I decided to seek some insight before I go bald.

Here's the situation:

1. I own 100% of S-Co
2. I had no basis in S-Co at the beginning of '13. (actually negative basis)
3. S-Co had net income from operations of $30,000.

4. S-Co is a partner in a Partnership. It had no basis at beg of '13
5. S-Co contributed $2000 to the Partnership in '13
6. S-Co received $5145 in Partnership distributions in '13
7. S-Co sold interest in Partnership for $50,000.

Questions:

a. Is the 50k treated as S-corp income to me (K-1, line 16d ---> Sch E --->1040 Line 17) or do I account for this cap gain differently? (I'm hoping it flows thru to Sch D where I can offset the gain with a cap loss carry forward)

or

b. Do I net the partnership activities? (ie. 50k+5145-2000=$53,145) and treat all the money as S-corp income. (no differentiating between distributions vs cap gain)

-------
c. Assuming the same factors above....If the S-corp distributed more money than it's net profit, how is that accounted for?


Thank you sooooo much in advance. I hope all salient points have been properly provided.

pac



Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! stumble!bookmark in google!Share on Facebook!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-07-2014, 05:47 AM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,258
Quote:
Originally Posted by pacard View Post
#1;1. I own 100% of S-Co



#2;2. I had no basis in S-Co at the beginning of '13. (actually negative basis)
3. S-Co had net income from operations of $30,000.

4. S-Co is a partner in a Partnership. It had no basis at beg of '13
5. S-Co contributed $2000 to the Partnership in '13
6. S-Co received $5145 in Partnership distributions in '13
7. S-Co sold interest in Partnership for $50,000.

Questions:

a. Is the 50k treated as S-corp income to me (K-1, line 16d ---> Sch E --->1040 Line 17) or do I account for this cap gain differently? (I'm hoping it flows thru to Sch D where I can offset the gain with a cap loss carry forward)

or

b. Do I net the partnership activities? (ie. 50k+5145-2000=$53,145) and treat all the money as S-corp income. (no differentiating between distributions vs cap gain)

-------



#4. Assuming the same factors above....If the S-corp distributed more money than it's net profit, how is that accounted for?


Thank you sooooo much in advance. I hope all salient points have been properly provided.

pac
#1;no neg stock basis and unless you took losses in 2013, no neg bal in AAA either.


#2; Federal income tax laws impose corporate and partnership taxes on a corporation that is a partner in a partnership. The partnership must file a yearly informational tax return, F 1065, but it doesn’t pay income tax. Instead, the partner receives a Sch K-1 that reports his share of partnership's income and deductions. As a result, the corporation, which is a separate taxpayer, must report the partnership income, or loss, with the income it earns from other corporate activities and reports on a corporate tax return.

#3;I guess so

#4 Distributions are absolutely not an expense account. They are a reduction of the shareholder's capital account. it can be trated as cg aslongas it exceeds the sh/owner;s aaa/loan bases; If you take a distribution and that distribution brings your basis below zero, then the that amount over your basis is taxed as capital gains



Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! stumble!bookmark in google!Share on Facebook!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-07-2014, 12:38 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 4
Wnhough,

lol. thanks, but I'm a bit confused by your answers as it seems you provided answers to the surrounding factors not the questions. Can we narrowly stick to questions a, b & c?


a. Is the 50k treated as S-corp income to me (K-1, line 16d ---> Sch E --->1040 Line 17) or do I account for this cap gain differently? (I'm hoping it flows thru to Sch D where I can offset the gain with a cap loss carry forward)

or

b. Do I net the partnership activities? (ie. 50k+5145-2000=$53,145) and treat all the money as S-corp income. (no differentiating between distributions vs cap gain)

----------
c. Assuming the same factors above....If the S-corp distributed more money than it's net profit, how is that accounted for?
- I never mentioned it was accounted as an expense. If it's treated as a cap gn, do I document in Sched D?



Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! stumble!bookmark in google!Share on Facebook!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-07-2014, 04:23 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,258
Quote:
Originally Posted by pacard View Post
Wnhough,

lol. thanks, but I'm a bit confused by your answers as it seems you provided answers to the surrounding factors not the questions. Can we narrowly stick to questions a, b & c?


a. Is the 50k treated as S-corp income to me (K-1, line 16d ---> Sch E --->1040 Line 17) or do I account for this cap gain differently? (I'm hoping it flows thru to Sch D where I can offset the gain with a cap loss carry forward)

or

b. Do I net the partnership activities? (ie. 50k+5145-2000=$53,145) and treat all the money as S-corp income. (no differentiating between distributions vs cap gain)

----------
c. Assuming the same factors above....If the S-corp distributed more money than it's net profit, how is that accounted for?
- I never mentioned it was accounted as an expense. If it's treated as a cap gn, do I document in Sched D?
a. Is the 50k treated as S-corp income to me (K-1, line 16d ---> Sch E --->1040 Line 17) or do I account for this cap gain differently? (I'm hoping it flows thru to Sch D where I can offset the gain with a cap loss carry forward)=================>>>as mentioned previously,as yousaid, as your s corp is a PARTNER in the PS, you the PS must report the 50K on 1065 and give you SchK1 of 1065 then,youmust report it on 1120S and SChk1 of 1120s.

or

b. Do I net the partnership activities? (ie. 50k+5145-2000=$53,145) and treat all the money as S-corp income. (no differentiating between distributions vs cap gain)===============>>>>>>>>>this is what I meant and you need to report it on your 1065 and 1120S.

----------
c. Assuming the same factors above....If the S-corp distributed more money than it's net profit, how is that accounted for?==as said, it is treated as LTCG;the amount over your basis in your S corp, I mean AAA/stock/loan basis, is taxed as CG.
- I never mentioned it was accounted as an expense. If it's treated as a cap gn, do I document in Sched D?==============>>>>>>>correct; you need to file sch D/f8949 NOTE; please contact a CPA/an IRS EA in your local area for more info in detail for your fed/state returns



Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! stumble!bookmark in google!Share on Facebook!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-07-2014, 04:41 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 4
okayyy...ummm, Let's try this again.

I am not the partnership. I understand that the partnership will send my S-corp a K1. The partnership hasn't provided the K1 yet. Can we set aside how the partnership is going to communicate the gain to my s-corp? That's not my question.

The question is how does my S-CORP report the transaction to it's shareholder, me? Is the 50k treated as S-corp INCOME to me (K-1, line 16d ---> Sch E --->1040 Line 17) or do I account for this as a CAPITAL GAIN and report it differently? (I'm hoping it flows thru to Sch D where I can offset the gain with a cap loss carry forward)

Let's just focus on this question. Can you be a bit more specific?



Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! stumble!bookmark in google!Share on Facebook!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-07-2014, 04:57 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,258
the partnership will send my S-corp a K1.=i did noT say the PS will SEND sch k1 to your S corp; you as a partner of the PS will receive SchK1 got it?????



Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! stumble!bookmark in google!Share on Facebook!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-07-2014, 06:21 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 4
thanks. I give up. you're providing answers to questions I don't have.



Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! stumble!bookmark in google!Share on Facebook!
Reply With Quote
Ads
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Corp electing S corp and personal capital gains mrnormal S-Corporation 1 06-21-2012 05:35 PM
Write off S Corp debt on personal taxes dclark S-Corporation 0 12-06-2010 02:30 AM
What is the tax treatment for personal use of company cars? TaxGuru Miscellaneous 0 01-05-2010 07:13 PM
1099 Other Income treatment from C corp onixnyc C-Corporation 1 09-23-2008 11:12 AM
Can I lease my personal equipment to my C Corp? brndwgnr C-Corporation 0 07-06-2008 02:21 AM

Follow us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Google Buzz Rss Feeds

» Categories
 
Individual
 » Income
 » IRA/Sep
 » Medical
 
Corporations
 » Payroll
 
Forum for CPAs
 
Financial Planning
 
 
 

» Recent Tax Q&A
No Threads to Display.